>> not only debt ceiling but last tuesday he put up sequestration. we're not going to come to an agreement, a couple of solutions, kick that can down the road, time to think and talk about it. you saw it grind higher. not real volume. listen, you want them, pay up, we're happy to sell on the way up. >> we're going to talk about apple during the course of the session, course of the program. what is your takeaway from what tim cook said or didn't say today? >> listen, i think it's very interesting this whole conversation with what einhorn has now created with apple. this conversation ensuing. i like apple. i like apple where it is at the moment. >> did you like it all the way down. >> i said a long time ago when it started to crack at 700, you had to be careful. there's so many names we saw at the end of the year, get into it, push and push the way the market got ahead of itself. i fully expect the market will back off some. it needs to some. if you look it up, exactly what it did over couple of months. >> thank you. breaking news in the bond market, t